November 26th / 29 min

Lessons from Season 3

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Aarron Walter & Eli Woolery

Aarron Walter & Eli Woolery

Design Education team, InVision
About The Episode

We recently wrapped up the third season of our Design Better Podcast, where we explored the connected workflow: how designers can work more effectively and efficiently with their engineering and product counterparts to create incredible customer experiences.

We interviewed guests ranging from Julie Zhuo, VP of Product Design at Facebook and author of The Making of a Manager, to Diego Rodriguez, Chief Product and Design Officer at Intuit.

In this bonus episode, Aarron and Eli share some of the things that they learned from these guests, who are some of the brightest minds in digital product design.

Here are a few of the top takeaways:

  • Learn how Google’s Abigail Hart Gray approaches measuring the value of design.
  • Hear how Lori Kaplan from Atlassian explains “designing across the seams” to create a unified customer experience.
  • Listen to Benjamin Evans speak about how the practice of inclusivity can create a framework for inviting roles outside design into the design process.

Meet Your Hosts

Aarron Walter
VP of Design Education

As the VP of Design Education at InVision, Aarron Walter draws upon 15 years of experience running product teams and teaching design to help companies enact design best practices. Aarron founded the UX practice at MailChimp and helped grow the product from a few thousand users to more than 10 million.

He is the author of the best selling book Designing for Emotion from A Book Apart. You’ll find Aarron on Twitter and Medium sharing thoughts on design. Learn more at

Eli Woolery
Director of Design Education

Eli is the Director of Design Education at InVision. His design career spans both physical and digital products, and he has worked with companies ranging from startups (his own and others) to Fortune 500 companies.

In addition to his background in product and industrial design, he has been a professional photographer and filmmaker. He teaches the senior capstone class Implementation to undergraduate Product Designers at Stanford University. You can find Eli on Twitter and Medium.

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Uncover insights from the world’s top design leaders

In Season 3 of the Design Better Podcast, we’re exploring the connected workflow: how designers work more effectively and efficiently with their engineering and product counterparts. We’ll talk about how  building key partnerships throughout an organization can help you ship better products, faster, with companies like Google, Airbnb, Atlassian and the Wall Street Journal.